Here is an e-mail from Dan (N1ND)  in December of 2002. At that time even BEACONet was not permitted. I had asked Dan once before about Packet (AX.25) but I am unable to find a copy of those e-mails.


From: Henderson, Dan N1ND [dhenderson@arrl.org]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:24 AM
To: tim@link-to-life.com
Subject: RE: ARRL VHF Contest rules question
hi Tim:
 
Sending out a signal with your Lat/Lon or grid even on direct APRS or other similar system is considered self spotting.
 
Thanks and 73

Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager

 
-----Original Message-----
From: KE3Ht@lmrgroup.com [mailto:KE3Ht@lmrgroup.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:38 PM
To: Henderson, Dan N1ND
Subject: RE: ARRL VHF Contest rules question

Dan, Thanks for your reply. We still have a question. I know you don’t need to be bothered so much about this stuff. Let me be direct as I can about it and get this over with.

 

I wonder if I can send my Call (kinda like a CQ) and location (Lat & long or GRID) on 2m (or 6m) fm APRS, direct mode only(no DIGI), to make a contact?

 

I think yes, I look at is as a CQ call as long as the signal is not repeated (IE no digi).  I CAN see that repeating my signal by another station such as digipeting APRS would defiantly be a self spot just like using a voice repeater to find a contact would be. SOOOO this would assume I set my APRS station to be direct mode only and have 0 (zero) hops or repeats should keep me legal and usable as a contact and not violate the rules or their intent. Only direct stations would be able to respond and digi’s can not repeat my signal.

 

Thanks so very much for your response!

 

73,,, Tim

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Henderson, Dan N1ND [mailto:dhenderson@arrl.org]
Sent
:
Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:21 PM
To: tim@link-to-life.com
Subject: RE: ARRL VHF Contest rules question

 

Hi Tim:

The General Rules for all ARRL Contests reads in part "3.10. The use of non-Amateur Radio means of communication (for example, Internet or telephone) to solicit a contact (or contacts) during the contest period is not permitted."

Also, self-spotting on is not allowed under the same General Rules: "3.14. In contests where spotting nets are permissible, spotting your own station or requesting another station to spot you is not permitted."  So, spotting your self on the DX packet cluster, APRS, BEACONet, or other systems for the purpose of soliciting contacts is not permitted.  Calling "CQ" on a local repeater to try and solicit contacts to move to a valid frequency (since contacts on repeaters are not valid QSOs) would be considered self-spotting.


It is permissible to ask a station that you are in a contest QSO with to move to another band or to set up a schedule for a later time.

In addition, use of a spotting network or predetermined operating arrangement (again such as packet, APRS, BEACONet, a DX net on HF) to find stations to work means that unless the contest in which you are participating has a Single Operator Assisted category, your entry becomes a Multi-operator situation (under Rules for ARRL Contests on Bands below 30 MHz "2.3.1.1. In those contests that do not have Single Operator Assisted class, this category includes those single operators that use any form of spotting assistance such as from nets or packet.")  Since assisted operation is not allowed for Single Operator stations in VHF contests (Rules for ARRL Contests on Bands above 50 MHz  "2.1.3. Use of spotting assistance or nets (operating arrangements involving other individuals, DX-alerting nets, packet, etc) is not permitted.") if you use any kind of spotting system to locate stations to work, your entry is a multioperator entry in VHF/UHF events.

Thanks and 73

Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ertl [mailto:tim@lmrgroup.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:02 PM
To: contests
Subject: ARRL VHF Contest rules question

 

I know this question has come up many times. I just can't find a written
answer. It is my understanding that communications during contests for
the purpose of scheds and liaison is supposed to be done via point to
point RF communications. The use of commercial phones(Cell or land
line), repeaters and digipeters is not normally customary.

In the VHF/UHF contest my question is:
To me this means digital modes like CW, packet or Aprs is acceptable BUT
not with the use of a repeater or digipeter.

Can you confirm or deny this? 

Again sorry for asking this dumb question again. Its not anywhere on the
ARRL web sites I could find.

The answer you send I wish to disseminate to the wa1mba microwave new
list.

Thanks again!
,,, Tim